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jinxxxxed
01:55 pm - Keep Your Faith Out of My Lab.
I'm going to keep this as concise and rage-free as humanly possible.

While I try to maintain an open-mind when it comes to world views and lifestyles, I'm afraid I must draw the line somewhere. For me, science and religion to not mix. That's set in stone, just like me refusing to use electrical appliances while immersed in water. If that works for you, more power to you and I'll support you in your decision. However, trying to get me along for the ride bothers me. Oddly enough, I liken it to the complaint many Jewish people I know have about Christians incessantly trying to convert them. I know where the nearest churches of many different faiths are. If I honestly wanted religion, I could find it. (Which reminds me: before you say, "you're a buddhist": I consider that a philosophy and not a religion.)

It really does irk the living fuck out of me (it's not so unlike a flashback to my days of forced internment at my grandmother's church) and, rather than say that and hurt feelings, I toss out phrases like "If that works for you" hoping the hint gets out there. When that doesn't work, I refuse to talk about it. Religion and all its trappings is a topic I avoid like the plague and the less involved in it I get, the happier I am.

It's like this: when I go in to a lab, I'm trying to find out why things happen. My views, my beliefs, and my practices get left at the door. The last thing on my mind is trying to make sure my findings jive with the story on how things work in a book written by men about some supreme sky daddy pulling the world's strings behind the scenes. I refuse to be like Darwin, who hid most of his work for fear of being persecuted by "creation science" types and died before his work was ever fully understood and his contributions acknowledged. I will not live and die like Gallileo, who was placed under house arrest by the Pope for the rest of his natural life because he looked to the heavens, only to find them imperfect and revolving around something other than Earth. Both of these ideas were considered heresy because science and religion were merged; anything that didn't go along with the bible and the church just wasn't true: god doesn't make imperfect planets or allow the center of the universe to be something other than the world he created.

I also do not believe in trying to merge things to make it more acceptable to the hoi polloi. For the longest time, the world was flat because some people just couldn't fathom there being more to the world (Aww shit! we can't handle 3-D!). Reagan merged homophobia and the AIDS virus so people would find it acceptable to not investigate a disease which--big suprise here--doesn't limit itself to infecting only one part of the population. Jerry Fallwell hybridized sin and terrorist attacks to make his faith-based derisions of other groups legitimate. President Bush merged Al Qaida and Saddam Hussein to make his reason for invading Iraq more acceptable to the public at large.

I do make exceptions for: peanut butter and celery, chocolate cookies with white creme in the middle, hybrid sports cars, interleague major league baseball, coffee ice cream and Reese's peanut butter cups, Tuaca and Sour Apple Pucker's, and those back massagers with heat.

The truth is out there. If we find there is some sort of god, fine. We can talk about whether or not they lit the fuse to start the "Big Bang." Until that time, I'm looking at the side that has more tangible evidence (IE: things that don't require an explanation like "Well, the [insert sacred book] says"), so keep your faith's (collective) fucking hands off my theoretical intergalactic fire cracker.
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From:muted_prophecy
Date:July 3rd, 2004 10:43 pm (UTC)
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I think I'll disregard this since you are obviously mistaken about my intentions. I take no one along for a ride. I expressed my views and listened to yours. I engaged in a debate and you took it personally. Pity, that.
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From:jinxxxxed
Date:July 4th, 2004 12:15 pm (UTC)
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It was a general reply to an ongoing thing that's been bugging me. The bolded "me" and "you" are to point out the different sides of the issue. They do not specifically represent us in that conversation.

While this debate was more recent, many people have dragged me in to this sort of thing...why religion and science can be blended together..why faiths can be amalgamated. Oddly enough, people like to talk about the two things together. More often than not, people seem drawn to dragging me kicking and screaming in to talking about stuff like this. I don't like to talk about it because it usually results in a one-sided rant about why that person's faith is the bomb diggity and science is some sort of gift from above (Promethius. Fire. That sort of thing.) or how science is a way of tricking people/a test to separate the faithful from the non-believers. Then it's all downhill from there and most of what I remember of the conversation is looking for some sort of way out and/or banging my head against a table hoping for sweet release.

Personally, I'm just sick of talking about it, sick of biting my tongue in an attempt to be tactful, and sick of all-around not speaking my mind, so I vented. This wasn't something that just set me off out of nowhere: this was approximately 12 years in the making, long before I ever met you and certainly long before this conversation.

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From:ques_nova
Date:July 4th, 2004 07:03 pm (UTC)
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While I'll certainly agree that many people try to interpret science using their religion, there are the few exceptions that do the exact opposite and rather try to understand religion better using science. They are of course, few and far between, and the majority of morons who will only accept what can be proven if it lines up with what their church has to say certainly drown them out, but they are out there.

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